BE WARNED! GROUPS SUCH AS ‘YOUTH ALIVE’, ‘PLANET SHAKERS’ AND ‘HILLSONG’ PROMOTE THE ‘WORD FAITH HERESY’

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BE WARNED! GROUPS SUCH AS ‘YOUTH ALIVE’, ‘PLANET SHAKERS’ AND ‘HILLSONG’ PROMOTE THE ‘WORD FAITH HERESY’ AND THE FALSE ‘PROSPERITY GOSPEL’! STOP LISTENING TO THIS JUNK AND ATTENDING THEIR CONFERENCES!

Compiled by Michael Jeshurun

There are so many Christian music bands in the world and it is quite difficult to make an assessment of every single one of them and tell Christians who ask our opinion about such music – “THIS band you can listen to and THAT band you should not listen to” etc.

The thing we want to train every child of God to do is to develop a discerning mindset and judge every singer and music band by the Word of the Lord. What does the Word say about good Christian music? What does the Word say about that which motivates the flesh? What does the Word say about false teaching whether it be in a sermon or in a song? Why, it says this – “Examine EVERYTHING and hold fast to that which is good!” [1Thes 5:21]

Now concerning music the Bible says – “Let the Word of Christ dwell in you richly in all wisdom; teaching and admonishing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing with grace in your hearts to the Lord.” [Col 3:16]

And again “Speaking to yourselves in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, singing and making melody in your heart to the Lord.” [Eph 5:19]

Now what about “Planetshakers” and “Hillsong”?

Should we be encouraging people to attend Hillsong events or sing their songs in our churches?’ The answers lie in the foundations, theology and now the fruit of this ever-growing movement.

WHAT Do They Teach?

Hills Christian Life Centre is known by many as ‘Hillsong’, as the music being produced and recorded there has developed into a great commercial success. The theology emanating from this Pentecostal movement is also unashamedly ‘Word of Faith’ and ‘Prosperity’ teaching. ‘Word of Faith’ was initially founded by Kenneth Hagin and propagated by Kenneth and Gloria Copeland. These people are demonstrably false teachers and false prophets.

The false teaching includes heretical teaching on the Deity of Christ and the Atonement. (4) The false prophecies of these leaders are too numerous to mention in this short article but documentation of many of them are freely available. (5) The Word of Faith ‘jesus’ is manipulated by a force of faith contained in words to give healing, money and success. Its leaders, (Copeland, Hagin, Joyce Meyers, etc), many who have been speakers at Hillsong, teach that their jesus went to hell and was tormented by demons for three days as part of the atonement. They also confuse or deny the deity of Jesus while on earth. Of course they may not teach these things while speaking at Conferences such as those held atHillsong but they nevertheless have taught these things in their books and audio tapes.

As head of Hillsong, Brian Houston also teaches a full blown ‘prosperity’ doctrine that holds to the belief that God is willing to be controlled into blessing His people with large amounts of money commensurate to their giving. (6) His sermons spend much time in teaching a ‘giving to receive’ theology. The outcome of this is great accumulation of wealth amongst the leaders and thus Hillsong has become a multi-million dollar enterprise.

There is no doubt that Hillsong (or the attendees that give the money?), perform many good deeds. The church has numerous charitable ministries such as Mercy Ministries, (a home established by Hillsong’s Darlene Zschech for pregnant girls or those with eating disorders) andHillsong Emerge – to help people find jobs and recover from addictions. Thousands of children in Uganda are also sponsored; and Hillsong gave $500,000 to victims of the 2004 Boxing Day tsunami.

On the negative side – Hillsong Emerge has been accused in Federal and State parliaments of misappropriating millions of dollars worth of Commonwealth grants. Also Houston failed to declare that he and his wife Bobbie had sold some personal property holdings to a Hillsong’s Leadership Ministries Incorporated (LMI), of which Brian is a director. LMI is the tax-free entity Hillsong set up to help pay the Houstons’ income. In breach of Office of Fair Trading reporting rules, no financial statements had been lodged since its inception in October 2001. Only after the property deals were uncovered by The Australian were the accounts filed in August 2005. The Houston’s incomes did not show how they as a family could afford property worth $1.738 million over 12 months. (7)

At Hillsong much time is spent on teaching about prosperity and giving. Brian wrote and published a best selling book titled . . . [Why You Need More Money]. As the money buckets are passed around at each meeting, the audiences are informed that credit card facilities are available, and cheques should be made out to Hillsong. The Australian wrote: ‘The buckets have holes in the bottom, presumably to discourage parishioners from giving coins…[But] the rivers of cash keep flowing: donations and salary tithes to Hillsong were $15.3 million in 2004; merchandise, CDs, books and DVDs, returned a further $6.93 million, while total church revenue has now passed the $50 million mark – all tax-free thanks to Hillsong’s charitable status.

The message of Hillsong’s prosperity gospel is: the richer you are, the more you can help others’. (8)

Hillsong has become a platform for a wide range of ecumenical church leaders, faith healers and prosperity teachers, many who are heretical and false prophets. The wide scope was evident at a recent Conference (July/2006) when neo-evangelical Rick Warren took the stage, and was followed by radical Pentecostal Reinhard Bonnke, sharing the same event with his blazen display of ‘tongues’, prophecies and healings. At this Conference Bonnke ‘promised married couples who were barren that they would be holding their own baby in their arms in nine months time. He promised cures for cancer, for people with damage to their spines, and those suffering from rheumatoid arthritis. He asked us to stand and place our hands on the parts of the body where we were sick or on the top of our own heads, and promised that we were healed and that our life spans were returned to normal. The fact that he himself wore glasses at all times before, during and after these sessions seemed to matter little to him or the audience’. (9)

This same evangelist has fraudulently claimed to raise people from the dead and healed thousands. Investigations by various ministries and by Christian doctors have exposed this man as a signs and wonders fraud. (10) Then there is Darlene Zsech, who no doubt is an attractive and dynamic song leader, singer and motivator for Hillsong.

However, her presentation has been described by one Christian magazine as ‘sentimental, incoherent, and rather light on content – that it was all anecdote, misquoted Bible verses, oversharing and assertion…’ (11) This quote sums up much of Hillsong teaching which majors on topical sermons with a shotgun approach to the use of scripture.

Very often the scriptures used simply do not convey what the preacher is emphasising. The pre-sermon repetitive beat music also minimises the level of discernment of the hearers. The music captures hearts and emotions well, but does not well prepare the mind to discern truth from error. We in this ministry are increasingly noticing youth who are copying this Hillsongstyle of presentation and whose speech is fast, erratic and jumping from one thought to another. This ‘hype’ of Hillsong may have youth jumping and proclaiming ‘jesus’ but where is the depth that is needed when the tribulations and trials of this life hit home?

The lack of a doctrinal base is worthy of serious consideration! Such doctrines as the Cross, the Blood, the Judgement of God, the Sinfulness of Man, the pursuit of Holiness (and thus Separation) and the systematic exposition of the Scriptures – all these are hardly evident inHillsong. When sin is spoken of, and this is not often, it is spoken in psychological terms such as negative thinking and attitudes that destroy God’s purpose in our lives, and limit our potential. There is little or no message that sinful humanity is under God’s wrath and condemnation because of our personal rebellion against Him.

Hillsong’s doctrinal foundation does not allow for the Biblical connection between sin, death and judgement. One writer who went to the 2006 Conference stated: ‘…not a single example was found expounding Jesus’ death as taking the penalty for sin on our behalf so that we might avoid God’s wrath on judgement day…They do not proclaim Jesus death as a substitutionary atonement, turning aside God’s wrath so that I can receive forgiveness and be saved on the day of judgement. The Gospel is not preached. Its content is not expounded. Its great terms and concept are not taught or explained. Whatever is driving the bus, it’s not the Gospel’. (12)

The Music – Is There a Link?

Is there a link between the Hillsong music and the sinful lifestyles and aberrant doctrine amongst the leaders? We have always been sure there is. There is a rising tide of voices expressing concern over a rebellious attitude reigning in many of our youth who frequent such events as Youth Alive, Hillsong and other Contemporary Christian music events. Australia’s youth in general are already rebellious, self-centred and hate authority. Rock music reflects and fosters this rebellion. Hillsong ‘worship’ services at times resemble a nightclub and the sensuality displayed from the platform is hardly Godly and holy. Many of the lyrics are about ‘us’ and not God and promote a worldly ‘love affair’ with Jesus. The ‘mosh pit’ at the foot of the stage of some events would do credit to a Jimmy Barnes concert.

Any ‘gospel’ that might be preached at these events is nullified by the effect of the emotional and worldly music which affects the flesh.

Just how close the music and the performances of Hillsong Conferences are to the world is illustrated by this testimony: ‘The sound hits you like a wave. The bass is throbbing. The drums kick through your diaphragm with each beat. The guitars thrum and swell. The lead singer is a good looking guy with unkept hair and stubble. He stands arms raised, head thrown back. The crowd moves and sways like a rippling sea. We roar. We sing. We stomp. Two guys stand next to me in leather jackets and dreadlocks, repeatedly pumping the air with their fists. They look at each other, and one mouths the word, ‘awesome!’. Loudspeakers flank the stage and rise up above the crowd in curved banks. Images flash and morph in sync with the music on billboard sized video screens. As each verse of the song leads towards the anthemic chorus, the momentum builds. The rhythm drives us forward. The chorus arrives in a rush of sound, and sweeps us on. The singer holds his mike towards us and gets us to sing. We belt it out. The year is 1988 and U2 is wowing them at the Sydney Entertainment Centre. Bono is on stage telling us how much he loves this town…[Now] Almost every detail is the same, except that the lead [Hillsong] singer is saying how much he loves Jesus…[this] at the Hillsong conference at Sydney…’ (13)

There is clearly a lack of distinction from the world, (Rom.12:2; Eph.2:2; 1Jn.2; James 4:4). We would challenge anyone to listen to the music, watch the performers and read the lyrics of Hillsong music and honestly say that it does not mimic the beat, the fashions and even the thinking of this world. If that is not evident to Christians who would read this, then why is it that the secular world sees Hillsong ever so clearly as their own, as is shown in the following quotes?:

‘Every weekend at Hillsong churches in Sydney 19,000 people sing, clap and jump through a two-hour tribute to a God who rocks’ (Jennifer Sexton, senior writer The Australian) (14)
‘…Most people attending, and everyone appearing at the conference, looked irredeemably ‘hip’. The young Asian woman in front of me in Bonnets workshop actually wore a clinging, rather revealing outfit as did many of her fellow delegates…she nodded approvingly as Bonnet said he would happily borrow from Kylie Minogue’s latest CD cover for ideas on how to promote Hillsong’s Darlene Zschech, the music pastor whose Christian rock CD’s have sold more than five million copies worldwide…A men only workshop did hear about how men need to control their sex drive and that masturbation is the first step to sexual dysfunction, but most of the presentations were…not especially heavy on theology either. Instead they tended to be of the motivational, self help, ‘Seven Habits of Highly Effective People’ type, as easily applicable to those building an environmental organization as to a church…’(Weekend Australian, 9/10 July, 2005).

It is sad that the secular world sees Hillsong as it really is and often describes it accurately, yet Christians are blind as to just how muchHillsong is of the world! Sadly in many things ‘…the children of this world are in their generation wiser than the children of light’, (Lk.16:8).

Paul put no emphasis on worldly methods but on the power of the message itself, (1Cor.2:1,4; 1Thess.2:3-5). We in this ministry are not against all ‘charismatic’ or lively music, such as ‘choruses’ that present sound doctrinal lyrics. However, when the rhythm dominates the music, when the noise level is so loud as to drown out voices, (is God deaf?), and when it becomes sensual, fleshly, repetitive (hypnotic) andworldly, then the line between flesh and spirit has surely been crossed! Yes, such organisations as Youth Alive, Planet Shakers and Hillsong will bring in the numbers and many will make ‘decisions’. However, these ‘results’ do not prove anything!

Our music and our youth meetings should be distinct from rock music and the ways of the world. They should be holy and uncompromised.

Some years ago the Christians in the Soviet Union issued a plea to the west: ‘…freedom is bringing another great harm to our churches. This damage is coming from Christians who are sending rock music and evangelists accompanied by rock bands…We are embarrassed by this image of Christianity…We abhor all Christian Rock music…it is true that rock music attracts people to church but not to Godly living…do not desecrate our teenagers with it. Even the unbelievers recognise it is unholy music and they cannot understand how American Christians can be so much like the world. We call this music from hell.’ (15)

Godly music is predominately melody with minimal beat or at least beat that does not override the melody – this music feeds the spirit; butHillsong emphasizes the rhythmic beat, which will naturally lean more towards the flesh. (16)

With the music there is too an ‘image’ that is portrayed by Hillsong and its performers. Many believe there is an overt sexuality. This is well underscored by the teachings of ‘Pastor’ Bobbie Houston. Her three audio tape series ‘Kingdom Women Love Sex’ (later renamed ‘She Loves and Values Her Sexuality’) have been popular in the largest Christian bookstores. These teachings set out to explain why she feels Christians should be good at ‘it’. Such things as ‘pelvic floor exercises’ and ‘orgasms’ are discussed.

Those who carry too much weight to be attractive she sees as ‘retards’. She says: ‘We need to be good at sex ourselves so that if the world happens to come knocking we can tell the story of God in our lives,’ Bobbie says, on the tape.‘Without being lurid or untruthful – hello! – we can say [she whispers], ‘I have a great marriage and a great sex life’ – wink wink, nudge nudge. Yeah, truly.’ Bobbie also offers some practical advice. Fat is out… ‘If I carry weight I feel like a retard…How are you going to do anything to surprise your man when you need a hydraulic crane just to turn over in bed?’ Have plastic surgery, if it makes you feel better and it is for the right reasons, and ‘girls, pelvic floor exercises – can you believe I am saying this? – you know, I have heard that orgasm is not as strong if you are really sloppy in that area’.

The primary market targeted for the Hillsong merchandise and concerts is our precious youth. On questioning a group of young people who attend Hillsong,
the unanimous answer to our question ‘How did you become involved in this Church?’ was – ‘the music!’. The authors have personally met non Christians who frequent Hillsong events because of the music and entertainment factor alone.

The most frightening thing about what Christians think of Hillsong is that many simply do not see the music as pandering to the world or the flesh. The doctrine is accepted as it stands – a toxic mixture of truth and error. One only has to listen to their CD’s or read the lyrics to discern that much of the music and the live performances are so close to the world and far from ‘holy’. Again, the proof of this is that many of their recordings reach the top of secular charts and are regularly advertised on commercial radio and television. One observer at the 2006 Conference stated: ‘Of the two hours or so each of the 14 rallies throughout the week, around half the time was a rock concert, led by Darlene and an array of special guest singers…The crowd seems to thrive on it. As each rally opened, an impromptu mosh pit would form at the front’ (17)

One reader wrote to us about such a typical Conference and highlighted the need for discernment: ‘I was attending a four day ‘Planet Shakers’ Conference in Adelaide with my church’s youth group, eager to learn more about God and to grow in my relationship with Him. At first, the conference seemed to be like many of the Christian functions that I had attended in the past: loud music, dynamic preachers and young Christians like me coming together to worship Jesus. However, as the conference progressed I began to notice certain things that didn’t ‘sit right’ with me. I noticed, for instance, that there was a nightly half-hour ‘sermon’ emphasizing the importance of giving as a primary means of obtaining material blessing from God….the worship was unashamedly ecstatic and repetitive, and there were altar calls and mass ‘conversions’ or ‘healings’ in nearly every session. Even more unbelievable, though, was the attitude of the conference’s director, Russell Evans: at one stage he said that he could ‘demonstrate the power of the Holy Spirit’ simply by throwing a towel at someone who would subsequently fall over! I was shocked at this outright blasphemy, but I was even more shocked at the response I got from my youth pastor, who, when told of my concern, said that Planet Shakers was a ‘perfectly normal Pentecostal conference’ and that I should just ‘chew the meat and spit out the bones’.

I was also deeply concerned about the fact that I was the only one out of my entire youth group who had a negative experience of the conference! In fact, I was so distressed about being the only one that I no longer felt like a part of the group, and as a result I began to question my faith. Did I really know who God was? If this was the one true God, then why did I suddenly feel so distant from Him? Why did I no longer want to worship Him? It was at this point that I decided to search for the truth: I took a break from church and began to earnestly pray and study the Word of God for myself. However, I was still pretty upset by the Planet Shakers experience, and so found this to be incredibly difficult: so much so that I came dangerously close to giving up on the faith altogether. The only thing that gave me hope was, in fact, an http://tape testimony from your ministry of being delivered from the movement…I identified with so many of the things mentioned, and was relieved to find that there was someone else out there who felt the same way. You confirmed my suspicions about the movement…I worked up the courage to leave the offending church, which I now realise is deeply involved in both extra-biblical revelation and the ecumenical movement. I am currently seeking a new church…I admit my reluctance in committing for fear of being contaminated by false doctrine all over again…’ (18)

Many readers might say of Hillsong music that ‘some songs are OK’. But is this to accept ‘leaven’ in the lump of truth about which Scripture has much to say? ‘Leaven’ is a New Testament symbol of sin and error, (Matt.16:12). Paul warns: ‘…Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump? Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened…the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth’, (1Cor.5:6-8).

Why is the church seeking to ape the world? The very word ‘church’ comes from the Greek word ‘ekklesia’ which means to be ‘called out’ of the world. Why does the world increasingly love the music being played in many churches today? Why are many Christian singers recently making it big time on the world’s music charts and being signed up to the world’s best secular record companies?

In the middle of the 20th Century, Tozer wrote: ‘Religious entertainment is in many places rapidly crowding out the serious things of God. Many churches have become little more than poor theatres’. When Tozer wrote this the entertainment factor in churches had only just become noticeable on a broad scale. Would Tozer be able today to tell the difference between the world and the church?

Should we sing Hillsong songs? Do we not promote Hillsong in some measure when we sing their songs? Does not Hillsong benefit financially when we do so? Is not the music the entry point into Hillsong’s aberrant philosophy, doctrine and teachings? Do we not compromise God’s theology when we sing the songs? Is it not enough that the fruit of Hillsong has been adultery, sexual deviancies, broken marriages, thousands of spurious conversions, making merchandise of their hearers and false doctrinal teaching? How can we willingly allow our children or ourselves to attend these events such as Hillsong?

Hillsong is taking our youth and the church closer to the world and Rome with it’s thinking and methods. Brian Houston recently spoken at a US conference at Robert Schuller’s apostasy riddled church – and shared the platform with Roman Catholic priests speaking there. The church is called to be separate, holy and ‘the pillar and ground of truth’, (1Tim.3:15). We urge parents, teachers, Pastor/ Elders and readers to stand against Hillsong where necessary.

This article will be seen by many as ‘blunt’, ‘unloving’ and ‘judgmental’. It is indeed one of our strongest articles to date. But it is time to publicly warn people of a movement that at best is shallow ‘feel good’ Christianity and at worst a movement that is taking the church into grave apostasy and ecumenism. Hillsong has degraded moral standards, it has changed the face of Christian music and presented songs that barely have any sound doctrine in them, it has altered the attitudes of our youth and it is a melting pot of false teaching and false prophecies.

The ‘jesus’ that Hillsong presents is not the Jesus of the Bible. He does not teach, as Hillsong does, that miracles will be the forerunner of a world wide end time revival; or that unknown ‘tongues’ is the evidence of the ‘Baptism with the Spirit’, (Hillsong adheres to this error as an Assembly of God church).

The ecumenical jesus that Hillsong encourages focuses on love and avoids truth, doctrine, sin and the wrath of God – all vital ingredients of the gospel. The ecumenical jesus is into union at the expense of truth. It says Catholicism is Christian and counts ‘decisions’ as salvation. But the real Jesus is non-negotiable on holiness and separation from the world, sin and error. He does not accept mixtures (‘leaven’) or false teachers and prophets.

The real Jesus teaches us to ‘present your bodies a living sacrifice,holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God’, (Rom.12:1,2).

By Terry Arnold & Mike Claydon

(1) http://www.signposts.org.au/2006/05/04/high-cost-of-faith/
(2) Kelly Burke, ‘Religious Affairs’ Writer Sydney Morning Herald, P.8, March 27/2002
(3) Diakrisis Australia, May/June 2002; Sydney Morning Herald 27 March 2002 (4) See our papers ‘Word Faith Movement – A Closer Look’ and…
(5) ‘False Prophecies, Revelations and Teachings’
(6) Diakrisis Australia, May/June 2003, P.9,10)
(7) http://www.signposts.org.au/2006/05/04/high-cost-of-faith/
(8) Jennifer Sexton, senior writer, The Australian. http://
http://www.signposts.org.au/2006/05/04/high-cost-of-faith/
(9) ‘The Briefing’, Jan/2007, P.13 (10) Diakrisis Australia, various articles
free on request (11) ‘The Briefing’, Jan/2007, P.11 (12) Ibid P.16
(13) Ibid P.11
(14) http://www.signposts.org.au/2006/05/04/highcost-of-faith/
(15) Peters & Rychuk, Unregistered Union of churches, Moscow, Nov/91
(16) For the effect of music on the body & mind see Diakrisis Australia June/98; May/June 2001
(17) ‘The Briefing’, Jan/ 2007
(18) Diakrisis Australia, Sept-Oct/2003, P.7

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4 thoughts on “BE WARNED! GROUPS SUCH AS ‘YOUTH ALIVE’, ‘PLANET SHAKERS’ AND ‘HILLSONG’ PROMOTE THE ‘WORD FAITH HERESY’

  1. Thank you Mike…….

    Much of the HillSong led music sensationalizes rather than edifies. I once heard a pastor say ……….. “when God kicked Lucifer out of heaven, he landed smack dab in the middle of the choir and also… that Lucifer’s position in heaven , he was the choir director. I can’t remember if it is in Ezekiel or Isaiah, but the LORD was speaking to Lucifer and said to him……. “on the day I created you, you were perfect and I placed within you your pipes and surrounded you with beautiful precious stones of onyx and emeralds, but because of your beauty and pride and iniquity found within you….. you were cast down”

    Music is one of many of Satan’s best tools…… it gives people a high and/or a fix if you please… it is a drug. It consumes, controls empowers , emotionalizes and enslaves the flesh. In the house of God music is glorified and given priority above God’s word of truth……because much of it is soulish and not spiritual. As that very scripture in Ephesians teaches us. …. “singing unto yourselves spiritual songs”

    But…… when the Holy Spirit comes He sets the captive free, and will lead and guide you into ALL truth.

    L / Dodi

  2. What has Hillsong got to do with Christianity? What has instrumental music got to do with the worship of God? They are an abomination to the Lord and symptomatic of a sick, deluded, false religion wearing a thin veneer of so-called ‘Christianity’. I pity those that have been deluded and led astray by such blasphemous, irreverant filth.

  3. Dear Brother Mike, I know this article is complied by you but I am not sure what words are your own. But that matters little. It it time for such blunt warning. I do not judge the hearts or eternal destiny of some of the leaders, but I do rather believe that they do not know the God of the Bible and fear that no doubt some of them will hear at the last day that that fatal statement, “I never knew you; depart from Me ye workers of iniquity.” And how blunt is the word of God that tells us that if we love the world and the things of the world THE LOVE OF THE FATHER IS NOT IN HIM. That is from the the apostle John, who has been called the apostle of love. Study 1 John in its entirety. We are to OVERCOME the world, not join in and become like the world. Where true doctrine is rejected, where the God of the Bible is not revealed and believed in, then in the vacuum will always arise a multitude of false doctrines. Thanks, Brother Mike, for sharing this much needed warning. Will such as the deceived ever be delivered from their deception? Only if some elect are among them. False teachers are more like “Judas goats” leading the blind to destruction. What can be a worse “iniquity” than giving people false home in a fantasized Jesus, leading AWAY from the real Jesus of the Bible?–Glen Berry

  4. Dear brothers in Christ, I am not sure who has written what, but I know that the Word-Faith Movement is of the devil! As a very young christian back in the late 1970’s we had a lady come to our then church, charismatic, who was into this, and several of us women went to a conference in Brighton, Sussex, to hear Kenneth Copeland. I was quite ill, even then, and had pushed myself to go with them, as then I believed God would heal me, but instead, I was deeply disturbed by what I was seeing and hearing. I thank God for the discernment of the Holy Spirit, because I was led to go downstairs (yes I was still able to walk then) and see all the hundreds and thousands of audio tapes being produced of Kenneth Copeland and so much money being made. A lady I was with had bought £100. worth! That was a lot of money then. I do not think I bought any but I had their magazine for a while. The amazing thing was that God spoke to me to look around and observe which I did. I had my eyes wide open to the whole business, a racket under the disguise of being “christian”. I spoke to the friends I was with, who were just about thrilled with the ministry they were hearing, and when I showed I was not, they just all got up and walked away from me. They were then my only friends. But I stood my ground, so they cut off from me entirely. To this day, I can remember some of what was preached, and it most certainly was false doctrine. I never went back to any of it, knowing the Lord had separated me. Since then, it has been and still is a very hard lonely path, but His grace IS sufficient. His strength is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore would I rather glory in my infirmities, that the power of Christ may rest upon me. (sorry I know the scriptures, but am very poorly now, and cannot recall the actual reference). Love in Christ, English Rose

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